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coming off the debate and the pew poll you now can make the case that mitt romney is the guy who is kind of the energy and enthusiasm candidate. i think some polls will come out in places like ohio, virginia, north carolina, florida, hopefully some independent polls in the next few days that i think will get the measure of how much bounce mitt romney got. if those polls suggest him really closing the margin in those states then i think the romney campaign is really on to something. national polling is great and they're happy to have it, but really the problem they have had in the last six weeks, two months, is electoral vote in the swing states. they need those numbers to move. >> and we are going to have our nbc news/"wall street journal"/marist polls in florida, ohio, and virginia coming out first thing thursday morning. mark you're in chicago, which tells me you've probably been doing a lot of reporting. what are they saying at the obama headquarters? >> well, andrea, i came straight here from the headquarters where i sat down with some of the top officials on the campaign and talked
coming off the debate and the pew poll you now can make the case that mitt romney is the guy who is kind of the energy and enthusiasm candidate. i think some polls will come out in places like ohio, virginia, north carolina, florida, hopefully some independent polls in the next few days that i think will get the measure of how much bounce mitt romney got. if those polls suggest him really closing the margin in those states then i think the romney campaign is really on to something. national...
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nevertheless it's not just one debate. >> it's one debate that is very visible but a different mitt romney shows up. obama just let that happen. mitt romney showed up and he seemed like an energetic guy to fix things. obama showed up and looked tired and listless and he didn't challenge mitt romney on his extreme positions or on the extreme positions of the republican party including his running mate. >> i always lover yo your insig. we're past the debate but still at that same conversation even with democrats still talking about the debate mystery that happened. >> it was a vacuum. there's nothing else to talk about until the next debate. >> we can talk about the fact women have been deserting -- we have two polls shows women are deserting the president. he had an 18-point lead in the pugh poll. >> it's tied at 47%. i don't want to just isolate you because you're the woman here. >> happy it to talk about it. >> you guys know women, but nevertheless we'll single them out. which is where the debate comes in, and mitt romney being allowed to define himself as a moderate, obama didn't bring u
nevertheless it's not just one debate. >> it's one debate that is very visible but a different mitt romney shows up. obama just let that happen. mitt romney showed up and he seemed like an energetic guy to fix things. obama showed up and looked tired and listless and he didn't challenge mitt romney on his extreme positions or on the extreme positions of the republican party including his running mate. >> i always lover yo your insig. we're past the debate but still at that same...
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plus we have more debate lies from mitt romney to strike down. mitt liked our next one so much that he repeated it five times. you are in an irritated war room on a thursday night and that isisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisis it's go time. it's go time. it's go time. go time. you know what time it is. go time. it's go time. it's go time. what time is it rob? here comes the young turks go time! it's go time. oh is it? then it's go. go. go. go. go. go. go. go time. anybody? anybody? what time is it? oh, right. go time! only on current tv. where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical
plus we have more debate lies from mitt romney to strike down. mitt liked our next one so much that he repeated it five times. you are in an irritated war room on a thursday night and that isisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisisis it's go time. it's go time. it's go time. go time. you know what time it is. go time. it's go time. it's go time. what time is it rob? here comes the young turks go time! it's go time. oh is it? then it's go. go. go. go. go. go. go. go time. anybody?...
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mitt romney's had a lot of debates. he went through a long primary practice where he got beat up a lot and got to beat up other people. barack obama had no primary process and has not been in a debate since his debates in the last election. so i think he's got -- he's not in fighting shape is my guess and all these practices he's doing, are to get him in the fighting shape. hopefully they have enough time to do it and hopefully he has a sparring opponent in john kerry who is not pulling any punches, not being as respectful to him as his staff might be and showing him that mitt romney is going to get on the stage knowing this is probably his last chance and he's going to be very aggressive in taking on obama. >> steve, thank you very much for your time. >> good to be here. >> steve, what do you think about this idea that debates don't usually change the race entirely all by themselves, but they confirm the narrative that has already been going on in the country? >> well, they can confirm the narrative but we keep coming
mitt romney's had a lot of debates. he went through a long primary practice where he got beat up a lot and got to beat up other people. barack obama had no primary process and has not been in a debate since his debates in the last election. so i think he's got -- he's not in fighting shape is my guess and all these practices he's doing, are to get him in the fighting shape. hopefully they have enough time to do it and hopefully he has a sparring opponent in john kerry who is not pulling any...
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romney is the greatest debater. chris christie, the governor of the new jersey says this yesterday. i will play the clip. >> we have a candidate that's going do extraordinarily well wednesday might and willy what out his vision for america and contrast what his view is and what the president's record is. the president's view for the future. and this whole race is going to be turned upside down on thursday morning. >> wow. what a bold prediction that is by the republican governor of new jersey. what do you think? >> god bless him. you know, everybody has to spin -- as -- spin doctors, we lie for a living. we really ramp up the lies the week of the debate. you pretend -- barack obama is not very smart, not a very good debater. baloney. i like fact the governor, he is stating the obvious which is true. that it is a narrow race but there is a solid but narrow lead for the president. it means this is at least one, maybe one of the last, very big moments that mitt romney can change that. i don't know that the prediction i
romney is the greatest debater. chris christie, the governor of the new jersey says this yesterday. i will play the clip. >> we have a candidate that's going do extraordinarily well wednesday might and willy what out his vision for america and contrast what his view is and what the president's record is. the president's view for the future. and this whole race is going to be turned upside down on thursday morning. >> wow. what a bold prediction that is by the republican governor of...
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will these new numbers mean lights out for romney's post debate afterglow? new ads kat aare catered to cri inting states. joining me live is jan schakowsky. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. business pioneer jack welch basically calls these numbers into question. had this remark that he tweeted out earlier today saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. what do you say to that? even the white house though right now this morning reluctant to spike the football on this. in their statement saying it is critical we continue the policies that are building an economy that works for the middle cla class as we dig our way out of a deep hole. what is your response to those questioning the validity? >> that's really interesting because i happened to see one of those chicago guys last night. i was with david axelrod. i asked him what do you expect about the jobs numbers? he says, i really don't know. we're hoping it will be good. so, you know, it doesn't surprise me that romney supporters are now
will these new numbers mean lights out for romney's post debate afterglow? new ads kat aare catered to cri inting states. joining me live is jan schakowsky. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. business pioneer jack welch basically calls these numbers into question. had this remark that he tweeted out earlier today saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. what do you say to that? even the white house though right now this...
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there's problems with the way romney went through that debate. looked good but didn't exactly convey a lot of truth. your thoughts? >> that's exactly what democrats are saying. paul ryan was out today and says that he expects for the next month he's going to hear from the obama campaign that they are liars and you hear liberals picking up on that. again, to go to this point about "saturday night live," i think it underscores what people already saw from that debate, which is that president obama turned in a very poor performance. i thought that he would have been smart to go on to "saturday night live" and sort of lampoon himself. we saw him do that out west. i guess the "saturday night live" folks reached out to him and they both declined. i think it has been a right of passage in elections, going back to 2008 when mccain was on, obama was on, hillary clinton was on and sarah palin, too. it is part of our political discourse. it reinforces the narratives. i think "snl" has had problems portraying obama. they switched to a new guy. jay ferrel see
there's problems with the way romney went through that debate. looked good but didn't exactly convey a lot of truth. your thoughts? >> that's exactly what democrats are saying. paul ryan was out today and says that he expects for the next month he's going to hear from the obama campaign that they are liars and you hear liberals picking up on that. again, to go to this point about "saturday night live," i think it underscores what people already saw from that debate, which is...
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the romney campaign after the first debate. looking at some of the enthusiasm. later my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. more to come with our special panel. nel right after this. >>> "meet the press" [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye. and you learned something along the way. this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrea
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> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real mitt romney, contrast that with a president that seemed -- not seem audio that was uninformed, detached and demonstrated that he had been lazy and disengaged. >> he is president of the united states. just what the hell does he have to prep? what the hell is going on that he doesn't know about? that he has to cram and learn? >> everything that came across in the debate left us with this ending, that the person who looked most presidential, most informed on the economy and the strongest coming out of last night was mitt romney, not our very own president. >> he was distracted. he was not -- he was umm -- as you point ou
> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real...
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mitt romney had the luxury of preparation endlessly for this debate. this is his full-time job as running for president. the president, you know, actually has a full-time job and that is running the country. he was rusty and it showed. mitt romney had had 20 debates this year. was very well prepared. and that showed too. but i do think president obama was able to do the contrast. i loved when he looked directly to the camera and talked to the american people about his plan in protecting the middle class versus mitt romney's but he certainly missed some opportunities. >> here is the thing. when it comes to issues, a lot of people are talking about what wasn't mentioned of the debate like romney's 47% comment, romney's taxes, bain capital. why didn't the president mention these things? >> that's exactly right, carol, and what i was about to say is that he absolute missed some opportunities. i don't understand why he didn't bring up the 47%. i don't know understand why he didn't focus on bain and i don't understand why he did not go back very hard on mitt
mitt romney had the luxury of preparation endlessly for this debate. this is his full-time job as running for president. the president, you know, actually has a full-time job and that is running the country. he was rusty and it showed. mitt romney had had 20 debates this year. was very well prepared. and that showed too. but i do think president obama was able to do the contrast. i loved when he looked directly to the camera and talked to the american people about his plan in protecting the...
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they're accusing romney lying in the debate. the lying going on here should be causing, you know, front page scandal in this city. >> bret: quickly. the state department by the way is apologizing profusely to fox news for leaving us off that call. charles? >> as they should. when you go back and look at what susan rice said, she didn't just say this was a demonstration and it wasn't terror attack. i remember the words there was no evidence of a terror attack. that's a stretch beyond getting it wrong. ton of evidence that was a terrorist attack. you might have said the preponderance it was a demonstration or we have some evidence. they went way out on a limb of something absolutely wrong. obviously wrong. embarrassingly wrong. this is a scandal. the fact that it only is of interest to us and to a few others is really second scandal. >> yeah. maybe you will get a muffin basket from the state department. i think that we're at the point now where the majority of what the obama administration said in wake of this was untrue rather th
they're accusing romney lying in the debate. the lying going on here should be causing, you know, front page scandal in this city. >> bret: quickly. the state department by the way is apologizing profusely to fox news for leaving us off that call. charles? >> as they should. when you go back and look at what susan rice said, she didn't just say this was a demonstration and it wasn't terror attack. i remember the words there was no evidence of a terror attack. that's a stretch beyond...
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this mitt romney needs to debate the old mitt romney as well. on each of these things he's taken the opposite position. there's an extended criticism of the president's take on syria, for instance. yet this is the same mitt romney who also said getting involved with libya would be mission creep. he opposed that in one country and now proposes it somewhere else. the point of consistent for him is israel. to pa are a phrase joe biden every foreign policy sentence has a noun, verb and the word israel in it. when it comes to the actual position saying a president needs to be involved in the middle east, it's drifted, that's true about the peace process. this is the same mitt romney, i believe, who was taped talking about the 47% and said, you know, when it comes to the middle east it's never going to happen. i will leave it to the next guy. >> we have that. let's listen to what mitt romney. almost literally said to kick the can down the road. this is part of the infamous 47% videotape taken surreptitiously in florida this year. let's listen to what
this mitt romney needs to debate the old mitt romney as well. on each of these things he's taken the opposite position. there's an extended criticism of the president's take on syria, for instance. yet this is the same mitt romney who also said getting involved with libya would be mission creep. he opposed that in one country and now proposes it somewhere else. the point of consistent for him is israel. to pa are a phrase joe biden every foreign policy sentence has a noun, verb and the word...
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>> well, governor romney's getting a bounce out of that first debate. we've seen it in the national polls. he's now a point or two ahead in some of them. essentially a tie in the national polls after being down three or four. now we're looking at these battleground states. the brand-new poll has him 51-47, so you call that a statistical tile. that michigan poll had them within the margin of error as well. i'm a bit dubious about michigan. he did get a post-debate bounce. we'll see if it sticks. the auto bailout, one of the reasons the president has been pretty strong there. that's why you heard a more confident governor romney an week or so ago, republicans were saying, how can we possibly pull this off? we haven't been able to put michigan into play. how can we win if the president's not on defense in some of these states. are we going to take a beating down ballot? that one debate performance turned the mood of republicans around? it's just one debate. there are two more debates to go. you heard governor romney, his tone and his tenor. senator obama s
>> well, governor romney's getting a bounce out of that first debate. we've seen it in the national polls. he's now a point or two ahead in some of them. essentially a tie in the national polls after being down three or four. now we're looking at these battleground states. the brand-new poll has him 51-47, so you call that a statistical tile. that michigan poll had them within the margin of error as well. i'm a bit dubious about michigan. he did get a post-debate bounce. we'll see if it...
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you mentioned governor romney does have some debate right now. the republican base is energized right now, so this is how his campaign views this. paul ryan can continue that momentum or he can do something that chokes off that momentum. >> there was a lot of pressure in 2008 when biden was going against palin and he had to come off as not being condescending, not seeming sort of dismissive of her. it's a very different dynamic. >> yeah. he didn't want to appear patronizing at all during that debate. he had to really watch himself, and he's told me since then that that was sort of the hardest thing for him to do. he doesn't have any of those constraints this time around. paul ryan, chairman of the house budget committee, experienced legislator, i think he's going to take the gloves off. in talking to the biden folks today, one of them said you can expect the vicpresident to draw a sharp contrast. when the campaign starts talking about sharp contrast, you know that he's going to go on the attack. >> he's pretty -- he's obviously known for off the
you mentioned governor romney does have some debate right now. the republican base is energized right now, so this is how his campaign views this. paul ryan can continue that momentum or he can do something that chokes off that momentum. >> there was a lot of pressure in 2008 when biden was going against palin and he had to come off as not being condescending, not seeming sort of dismissive of her. it's a very different dynamic. >> yeah. he didn't want to appear patronizing at all...
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the romney campaign, after the first debate, looking at some of the enthusiasm. later, my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. much more to come with our special panel right after this. >>> "meet the press" is brought special panel right after this. >>> "meet the prwe're sittinght on a bunch of shale gas. there's natural gas under my town. it's a game changer. ♪ it means cleaner, cheaper american-made energy. but we've got to be careful how we get it. design the wells to be safe. thousands of jobs. use the most advanced technology to protect our water. billions in the economy. at chevron, if we can't do it right, we won't do it at all. we've got to think long term. we've got to think long term. ♪ hey, it's sandra -- from accounting. peter. i can see that you're busy... but you were gonna help us crunch the numbers for accounts receivable today. i mean i know that this is important. well, both are important. let's be clear. they are but this is important too. [ man ] the receivables. [ male announcer ] michelin knows it's better for xerox to
the romney campaign, after the first debate, looking at some of the enthusiasm. later, my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. much more to come with our special panel right after this. >>> "meet the press" is brought special panel right after this. >>> "meet the prwe're sittinght on a bunch of shale gas. there's natural gas under my town. it's a game changer. ♪ it means cleaner, cheaper american-made energy. but we've got to be careful how...
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the romney campaign, after the first debate, looking at some of the enthusiasm. later, my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. much more to come with our special panel right after this. >>> "meet the press" is brought to you by the boeing company. >>> coming up next, more with our roundtable. chuck todd will go inside the numbers looking at enthusiasm in the electorate. >>> excuse me, governor. mr. president. >> i'm sorry. yeah, yeah, what's up? >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden. [ laughter ] would you care to respond? >> no. you two go ahead. [ laughter ] >> robert gibbs, i want to get you on the record on this. what specifically does the president have to do better in the next debate? >> well, look, i think you're going to see a very engaged president that is ready and willing to call out whichever mitt romney shows up. >> that's not the president who showed up in the first debate. >> again, i'm not going to take away from mitt's masterful, theatrical performance. he did a superb acting job. he did
the romney campaign, after the first debate, looking at some of the enthusiasm. later, my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. much more to come with our special panel right after this. >>> "meet the press" is brought to you by the boeing company. >>> coming up next, more with our roundtable. chuck todd will go inside the numbers looking at enthusiasm in the electorate. >>> excuse me, governor. mr. president. >> i'm sorry. yeah,...
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gibbs tried to tackle romney's debate flip-flops. i think he did it here. let's watch. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because, as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. we met a mitt romney that wanted to walk away from the central theory of his economic plan which is his tax cut. i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers, i think we need more of them. i mean, look, don't believe me, speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying, look, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> well, one thing i have been saying about the campaign is the president needs surrogates out there, he needs confederates, people out there. i love charleston. a lot of people -- rather charlotte because in charlotte you heard an entire political party speaking led by people like deval patrick, the go
gibbs tried to tackle romney's debate flip-flops. i think he did it here. let's watch. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because, as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. we met a mitt romney that wanted to walk away from the central theory of his economic plan which is his tax cut. i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut...
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mitt romney's motorcade just pulled up at the debate hall. president obama's expected to arrive in denver any minute as well. we'll be talking with top supporters of each candidate. the former new york city mayor rudy giuliani, he'll join us live this hour. also we'll be hearing from both candidates' wives in special cnn interviews. today, by the way, is the obama's 20th wedding anniversary. so what's it like spending the night with the romneys? i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> 34 days from the presidential election but much more importantly right now at least right now we've reached what may be the most decisive night of the 2012 campaign, the first presidential debate at the university of denver. after weeks of downplaying expectations, mitt romney's campaign insiders are finally opening up about what they really think can be accomplished tonight. cnn's national political correspondent jim acosta is in denver getting ready to set the scene. jim. >> reporter: wolf, the romney campaign sees the polls moving in their direc
mitt romney's motorcade just pulled up at the debate hall. president obama's expected to arrive in denver any minute as well. we'll be talking with top supporters of each candidate. the former new york city mayor rudy giuliani, he'll join us live this hour. also we'll be hearing from both candidates' wives in special cnn interviews. today, by the way, is the obama's 20th wedding anniversary. so what's it like spending the night with the romneys? i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation...
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romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust -- >> that's interesting. >> -- i don't know maybe this is it. >> all right. maybe the altitude. >> what's that? >> i was saying maybe the altitude. al gore was sbeing lighthearted when he was saying maybe that was the challenge, the altitude. >> maybe the altitude is what affected mitt romney's memory. maybe that was the impact on the debate. >> you win the gold. >> it is lighthearted. >> you win the gold. >> it is light hearted. >> stephanie, always great to see you. i appreciate your time. >>> "out front" next we break down mitt romney's key line of the night. it came when he talked about his tax plan. does it add up or not? u.s. special forces are on the ground, collecting intelligence in libya. we have a report from benghazi, coming up. >>> and live report from facebook revealed by mark zuckerberg. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or m
romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust -- >> that's interesting. >> -- i don't know maybe this is it. >> all right. maybe the altitude. >> what's that? >> i was saying maybe the altitude. al gore was sbeing lighthearted when he was saying maybe that was the challenge, the altitude. >> maybe the altitude is what affected mitt romney's memory. maybe that was the impact on the debate. >> you...
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now it shows mitt romney with some movement post-debate. so there's a little bit of concern with these latest numbers that have come out now. again, they believe they still have a little bit of an edge in the key battleground states, places like ohio, virginia, colorado and that's where this race will matter most. >> dan, i'm curious, on the campaign trail since the debate, we saw president obama the day after kind of using lines that i guess a lot of his supporters wished he used during the debate. how has the tone been different on the campaign trail since the debate in the last week? >> it really has been much more aggressive. we saw that from the president in wisconsin. i was with him in ohio as well, where the president came out swinging, hitting mitt romney on taxes. you heard him repeat at every stop the whole big bird line, he even repeated that over the weekend at a couple campaign events in los angeles, brought up the 47%, which is something the president did not touch on at all during the debate. but also, you see in the campaign
now it shows mitt romney with some movement post-debate. so there's a little bit of concern with these latest numbers that have come out now. again, they believe they still have a little bit of an edge in the key battleground states, places like ohio, virginia, colorado and that's where this race will matter most. >> dan, i'm curious, on the campaign trail since the debate, we saw president obama the day after kind of using lines that i guess a lot of his supporters wished he used during...
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and many fellow democrats felt romney bent the truth in the debate but was never called out and i asked if it was the moderator that bungled that or the president. >> i think the moderator has that job. >> it's upo the president to defend himself? >> absolutely. i am not trying to say the president should not take responsibility for his awful performance, he should have. but i think the criticism to the moderator is also justified. >> go ahead, hanna. >> what the liberals are doing is post debate spinning. it's whining. there's no whining in politics. one person should have challenged what romney was saying and his name is barack obama, and he did not do it. i agree with lz. it was a bit of both. it was a lot of both. president obama was way off, and mitt romney was very much on his game. you know, i don't remember many debates where it's hard to think of a memorable gaffe or a memorable knockout blow, and yet there was a very visible mark that was an undebatable victor of the debate, and it was mitt romney. he did it because for 90 sustained minutes, it was like he was debating a limp
and many fellow democrats felt romney bent the truth in the debate but was never called out and i asked if it was the moderator that bungled that or the president. >> i think the moderator has that job. >> it's upo the president to defend himself? >> absolutely. i am not trying to say the president should not take responsibility for his awful performance, he should have. but i think the criticism to the moderator is also justified. >> go ahead, hanna. >> what the...
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positive impressions of mitt romney from that debate. i don't foe if this competes with that. but certainly we saw in the past couple of months that people were beginning to feel a lot more confident about the economic situation personally and for the country. you saw it in the polls. we were wondering why was this data turning around. bill clinton gave a great speech at the convention and everyone loved what clinton said. it now turns out there was some underlying economic trends that was feeding that that we didn't really know about, but that makes sense now. and i think if that's the case heading into the critical month of october and obviously in november where we're going to have one more jobs report, i think that really does benefit the president. because that's been the underlying issue of this entire campaign. it's been the issue that mitt romney's campaigned on from the get-go. >> at the convention i think he framed obama the case for obama and particularly the case for obama on the economy more clearly than anyone else has on t
positive impressions of mitt romney from that debate. i don't foe if this competes with that. but certainly we saw in the past couple of months that people were beginning to feel a lot more confident about the economic situation personally and for the country. you saw it in the polls. we were wondering why was this data turning around. bill clinton gave a great speech at the convention and everyone loved what clinton said. it now turns out there was some underlying economic trends that was...
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have a couple more good debates, those all go in the romney column. that was a freudian slip. but at the end of the day, though, the question is committee make up the big difference in ohio? can he make up the big difference in wisconsin? because if he doesn't win ohio, he's got to win wisconsin. the romney people still think he can. after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> he's right. >> okay. >> i'm hearing this from democrats. and this broke through. we always hear about how americans aren't paying attention. they're looking at reality shows. this broke through, everybody was talking about it, not just how well romney did but how badly the president performed. >> well, just as i think it was premature to declare the race over before, i think it's too soon to say that that performance, as widely watched as it was, is going to move numbers. we have yet to see any numbers move. i think they probably will some. and i think that on the other hand, did governor romney win the d
have a couple more good debates, those all go in the romney column. that was a freudian slip. but at the end of the day, though, the question is committee make up the big difference in ohio? can he make up the big difference in wisconsin? because if he doesn't win ohio, he's got to win wisconsin. the romney people still think he can. after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> he's right. >> okay....
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last week, it was, you know, doomsday for romney, then the debate happened. who knows what it's going to be next week. is it still wide open? >> i think it's moved from a race that was heavily tilted toward obama, the president was just beating romney as a campaigner, and the debate has now made it much more of a horse race, and we're likely to see fluidity right to the end and the win may go because we see these numbers move three, four points on a debate, it may be a couple points on the unemployment numbers. the win may go to the guy who has the last big play. who has the last big favorable play. i don't think these debates are fool's gold. i know cornell wouldn't have said that if obama had won. i think they were really important turning point but it's turned it into a much, much closer race. >> cornell, ari, david, thank you. fascinating stuff. >> thank you. >>> let us know what you think. we're on facebook. follow me on twitter right now. >>> coming up, joe biden and paul ryan facing off on thursday. we look at whether the stakes were higher than four y
last week, it was, you know, doomsday for romney, then the debate happened. who knows what it's going to be next week. is it still wide open? >> i think it's moved from a race that was heavily tilted toward obama, the president was just beating romney as a campaigner, and the debate has now made it much more of a horse race, and we're likely to see fluidity right to the end and the win may go because we see these numbers move three, four points on a debate, it may be a couple points on...
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i also think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate. something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina, by our dear friend joe biden. roll it. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children, by an additional $2,000 a year. how -- all kidding aside, with all the boos, look, guys, this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest! how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years, how in lord's name can they justify? >> god bless him. >> mark mckinnon -- i love him. mike, we love him. we love him! has anybody not told him, they've been in the white house for the past four years? buried? the middle class has been buried over the past four years. >> joe, i am being deadly earnest now, man. deadly earnest. okay? on how anybody -- how anybody can attempt to bury the vice president is beyond me. >> i'm not trying to bury him. i got a good laugh out of it. mark mckinnon, you think we may hear the middle cl
i also think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate. something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina, by our dear friend joe biden. roll it. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children, by an additional $2,000 a year. how -- all kidding aside, with all the boos, look, guys, this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest! how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class...
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president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep a closer eye out for the cheating because that is the only reason he lost? i mean, it may be comforting to tell yourself this is what really went wrong here but that is not really what went wrong here and making the case that it was does not help your candidate. the worst example of this though, the invention of a comforting new parallel reality that does not mean you have to face hard truths. the worst new instance of this is how the right today responded to the new jobs numbers. today the unemployment rate dropped from 8.1% to 7.8%. it didn't drop for any of
president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep a...